the-resurrection:
Everytime I'm in Nikolaev I go to look for a cat,I first seen it when it was a kitten and fed it milk and chicken all the time I was there.The people who stayed in the apartment block liked the cat and thought I was kind to be feeding it.If I had lived there I would have took it in.

ramonrive:
. I urge the rest of you to dig a little into your pockets and do the same. We really can make a difference!!!

ramonrive:
. I urge the rest of you to dig a little into your pockets and do the same. We really can make a difference!!!

ramonrive:
Waiting
Your advice is exemplary and assumed .
But that is not quite what I had in mind .

I seriously question whether Admin should be setting this type of Agenda , however well intentioned and well meant .
I just wonder whether the members of the countries concerned actually are happy with what they are seeing .
I know two people on this BB who are financially handicapped permanently through no fault of their own .
They do not earn $500 in a year and three and four people have to live with some modicum of pride .

They would never indicate their deep btterness at this topic because of personal embarraeement , among several things

Individually , people can make their own choices .
This situation is somewhat different imho

I am not looking for an argument but mentioning a perspective which might have been underestimated .

Do you have any idea of the magnitude of the HIV problem in countries like Russia and Ukraine ?
Do you realise that human poverty is spread throughout in ways and to a degree that most Westerners have no inkling of ?

I would not dream of trying to tell people what to do with their own money and time but I do wonder if a fuller perspective needs mentioning -- which is why I have written these few words -- but only after considerable thought and real concern .

And have you ever seen those dogs who were dieing in convulsions with foam in their mouthes?

JaBlond:

Do you have any idea of the magnitude of the HIV problem in countries like Russia and Ukraine ?
Do you realise that human poverty is spread throughout in ways and to a degree that most Westerners have no inkling of ?

I would not dream of trying to tell people what to do with their own money and time but I do wonder if a fuller perspective needs mentioning -- which is why I have written these few words -- but only after considerable thought and real concern .

People are so predictable...I work with female abuse in families and I knew the words like that appear sooner or later. Everytime somebody tries to do something, a lot of other appear and say something about poverty and AIDS. A year ago I worked in Poland in social programm, we were working with females who were abused in theor own homes;

AND we were often attacked by people who were asking - you are Ukrainian students, do you know how many women are abused in your country, Why do not you help them? Or even worse - What about abused children - they are more important. The topic of AIDS was also discussed - you collect money for women and meanwhile people die from AIDS...Those questions were asked mainly by those people who did not do anything. and those people to me are even worse than those who are indifferent. Nothing personal, I share my experience. Tiresome.

And do you know that in FSU countries a lot more people die from tuberculosis than from Aids? Yes, they do.
But until the last year this problem was not almost noticed. AIDS was more fashionable and PRed, that is all.

My personal opinion is to help in any field that needs help or to stay away.

Point.

waitin4ulove:
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JaBlond:

Do you have any idea of the magnitude of the HIV problem in countries like Russia and Ukraine ?
Do you realise that human poverty is spread throughout in ways and to a degree that most Westerners have no inkling of ?

I would not dream of trying to tell people what to do with their own money and time but I do wonder if a fuller perspective needs mentioning -- which is why I have written these few words -- but only after considerable thought and real concern .

People are so predictable...I work with female abuse in families and I knew the words like that appear sooner or later. Everytime somebody tries to do something, a lot of other appear and say something about poverty and AIDS. A year ago I worked in Poland in social programm, we were working with females who were abused in theor own homes;

AND we were often attacked by people who were asking - you are Ukrainian students, do you know how many women are abused in your country, Why do not you help them? Or even worse - What about abused children - they are more important. The topic of AIDS was also discussed - you collect money for women and meanwhile people die from AIDS...Those questions were asked mainly by those people who did not do anything. and those people to me are even worse than those who are indifferent. Nothing personal, I share my experience. Tiresome.

And do you know that in FSU countries a lot more people die from tuberculosis than from Aids? Yes, they do.
But until the last year this problem was not almost noticed. AIDS was more fashionable and PRed, that is all.

My personal opinion is to help in any field that needs help or to stay away.

Point.